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3-20-14 THROUGH 4-15-14 Lori Watras Lori Starr John Watras Mel Starr

are The S/Ws The Starr/Watras s(plural )
4-8-14 through 4-10-14 /4-8-14.Re: proper,viable, sufficient records /4-8-14.Re:Enabling,expensive intrusion /Re:4-6-14.Mayor G.Troast/PayingAttention /4-10-14 Re:The S/Ws' dictating to the police and the City

The S/Ws are the Starr/Watrases Lori Watras,John Watras,Lori Starr,Mel Starr

LHP Mayor G.Troast/ LHP City Admin.Mr. J Lavisky/LHP Chief R.Licata
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If it weren't for the wide audience emailing started in the beginning of the
ninth year of all this, the only thing that
worked/works...............................This situation remains unresolved.
Please be reminded, trying to lie about, vilify, blame,or slander this residency to try to cover up the mess law enforcement and the City made out of this, won't be tolerated and won't work .

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Note:This is just the first 5and1/2 years of tapes as were submitted for Court

3-2014.CORRECTION WEBSITE AUDIO -WRITTEN PART- SEE EMAIL BELOW

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Correction-written- needed:5-24-04 See posted email posted again below/audio web

Note: 6-14-04 is typical but by far not the worst.

8-30-10.the 5-25-04 Audio Website Segment: The description is wrong.The correct description follows below.I didn't have a whole lot of internet savvy when the website was put up.This was a big endeavor with all the audio which had to be changed from cassettes which were too cumbersome and outdated to use for help. I never went into the website after it was put up so as not to disturb anything, not even for the grammatical mistakes on the written part which was written at the beginning of all this.

Every now and then, the audio website is relistened to for referrals,dates, etc.,made on the emails and Blog, which is uncomfortable to say the least and avoided whenever possible.What was anyone thinking to continue,protect, and clear all this?

Particularly unnerving is rehearing the 5-25-04 segment, six and 1/2 years into the targeted harassment and stalking, when Lori confidently taunts, 'screech sings' and taunts while 'screech singing' right up to this interior backyard six ft. shadowbox fence, 8 ft. off the pool, for hours.

5-25-04: 5-25 family fight/ 5-27 taunts and' screech singing'/ 5-17 taunts and lies/ 5-05 family fight/ 5-14,17 taunts while 'screech singing'/ There is more of this on the other segments

By that time,I had two cassette recorders ready to use, as the antics were front yard, backyard, and between the garages, so when the dates,segments were put on one tape, they were not always put in order. There was a lot of stress while this was being done.

I think that was the year, check date, that Det.Larry Hawkins and Sgt.C.Oh got joint 'Ofcs.of the Year Awards' for setting up C.O.P., with of course good PR.

'If anyone is still trying to defend the decade', think if you would want to put up with this/above for years along with everything else. cc: Web,Blog. All final editing done on the Blog.

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3-25-14.Re:Solution,Civil.

3-25-14The SWs moved at the end of Dec.2011, actual closing date, Jan.2012, and they kept it up even while packing and moving.It was a major concern to this residency that the S/Ws would keep it up,calling into LHP from outside the City to use the LHP police to harass us more.The S/Ws police assistance and cooperation was always acute and quick.Mr.Starr had bought in Century Village which was close proximity, but Lori and John has gone to N.J., so maybe divided up they wouldn't be so powerful. It does not seem now that they will be harassing this residency with their police from outside this City. If they did, it would immediately be emailed and blogged throughout this County. That was the only effective way, started in the beginning of the ninth year of all this to try to get help from anywhere, but who wants to always have to live that way. It now seems that the leverage of the S/Ws harassing from outside this City is gone, which is hefty leverage.

The Document was in effect as long as the S/Ws lived next door.They violated every part of it, and gloated and taunted that they could, would, and did. Once they moved, it was no longer in effect. They left covered and cleared, getting away with everything. It has never been explained why that Document was thwarted and disregarded by law enforcement and the City.Along with all the rest.

There have been numerous attempts at answers for all this.The City and law enforcement seem committed to cover ups and avoidance.It doesn't seem plausible to keep trying to do this alone.It has always been said and advised by many that a Civil Suit was the only solution with a problem this lengthy and intense.To be cont.:

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All final editing done on the BLOG. All emails' standard ending. If it weren't for the wide audience emailing started in the beginning of the ninth year of all this, the only thing that worked,works.....................The situation remains unresolved.

Please be reminded, trying to lie about, vilify,blame,or slander this residency to try to cover up the mess law enforcement and the City made out of this, won't be tolerated and won't work

3-29-14.Re:Lt.Jack Vacarro, PIO, LHPPD/ The Deerfield Observer/3-27-2014/ pg.5/ 'Be vigilant, report suspicious activity!'

Isn't there anyone else to do LHP press?It is important that someone credible does LHP press.

The LHP decade plus situation. Recurring complaint. It has long been complained stated that this situation was caused by devious, dumb cops who enabled, protected, backed up, and covered up for the S/Ws , and made up weird policies.The way new officers were trained regarding this was really complained about. Basically misinformation and lying.

Lt.J.Vacarro's input into this mess really made this residency miserable.

Just ask him what happened.

Again, It is important that someone credible does LHP press.Thank you.

Note:In spite of the fact that there was a viable crime issue this week which the Chief can and will live off forever, it is still to permissible and necessary to complain about factors in a decade plus mess in which no viable solution was used, to say the least. Thank you.

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Please be reminded, trying to lie about, vilify,blame,or slander this residency to try to cover up the mess law enforcement and the City made out of this, won't be tolerated and won't work

This residency had and will have its own history and will not be permanently and negatively defined by the S/Ws cop years by people trying to clear themselves. LHP will be defined this way.

9-27-12.Re :Deerfield Observer/Pg 5 /9-27-12/LHP Recognizes Lt.Vaccaro

As new PIO.for the LHPPD, it is hoped that Lt.Vaccaro has learned the difference between facts and lying and misinformation..

As an active participant in the LHP decade mess, particularly during the formative first horrific five and one half years, lying and misinformation were the unstoppable norm.What is LHP's statement on this situation now and how would Lt.Vaccaro present it having participated in it?

Please be reminded, the decade situation cost this residency a lot of money,time,and work.The situation remains unresolved. Slander trying to cover up the mess the City made out of this is not the workable solution for the City.See Web and Blogs for previous complaints.

Thank you.To be continued:

If it weren't for the wide audience emailing started in the beginning of the ninth year of all this, the only thing that worked/works,................................This situation remains unresolved. www.lighthousepointflorida.net/ Click BLOG on the homepage for the 08,09,10,11 sent emails updates in www.aseahorse1.blogspot.com/

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(#20) 3-11-08...............................Sgt J.Vaccaro had for years,diligently adhered to the Hawkins/Oh policy ,even though he knew it was wrong, protecting and covering up for the Starrs/Watrasses and misinforming a training Ofc.about the situation and legal proceedings, just making it harder and more expensive for us to get help.

4-3-14.Commissioner Earl Maucker, Re: Email 1-21-11.

With whom and exactly what did you study and discuss this with?This residency had not and has not been treated fairly by any standards.Thank you.

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Thank you for your email:

As you can imagine, the material you sent me is large and appears to be quite complex. It will take me some time to absorb it completely, but I assure you I will read it and make every effort to understand the issues involved.

Earl Maucker

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1-20-11.Commissioner Earl Maucker,Congratulations on your nomination .Please be aware that the following situation has not been resolved. Thank you.

www.lighthousepointflorida.net/ Click BLOG on the homepage for the 08,09,10,11 updates.All final editing done on the BLOG. www.aseahorse1.blogspot.com/ -From: Earl Maucker <earl@mauckermedia.com>Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 9:50:49 AM Subject: Re: 3-11-11Since I am no longer a Lighthouse commissioner due to the election of Glen Troast, please remove me from your email list. Thank you and best of luck to you in resolving your problem Earl Maucker Sent from my iPad

4-5-14.Mayor G.Troast, Mr.J.Lavisky,

Re: The expense for this residency was caused by law enforcement and the City.Questions

Please be reminded, the expense to this residency would not have been so great if law enforcement and the City hadn't been so adamant about keeping the S/Ws going. From the beginning, that particular type of reasoning to enable, protect, and cover up for the S/Ws wouldn't have been used by any of the people enforcing and using it, if the S/Ws were next door to them or in their audible proximity.That particular type of

reasoning was illegal and unethical. The main objective became to cover up and protect the people who had been and were enabling, protecting, and covering up for the S/Ws. The City also did not want anyone outside the City to know what was going on here.The misinformation and lying to try to cover this up was juvenile and belligerent, as was the whole era, as if the scenario and policies had been written by the S/Ws, and most of it was.The expense for this residency was caused by law enforcement and the City.Thank you.

Questions remain.

What laws were used by law enforcement and the City to enable, protect, and cover up for the S/Ws?

Why was the Circuit Court Document thwarted and disregard by law enforcement and the City?

What happened in the last two years the S/Ws were here to subdue them from the more overt stalking and harassment.? The mindset was still determined and threatening.

This residency was kept dangling probably for leverage and for payback for daring to complain.

It is ironic and telling that this residency was kept dangling and uninformed.

That -the S/Ws had not and were not doing anything wrong and nothing wrong had or was happening,- does not suffice.

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Please be reminded, trying to lie about, vilify,blame,or slander this residency to try to cover up the mess law enforcement and the City made out of this, won't be tolerated and won't work.

This residency had and will have will its own history and will not be permanently and negatively defined by the S/Ws cop years by people trying to clear themselves. LHP will be defined this way.

4-8-14 through 4-10-14 /4-8-14.Re: proper,viable, sufficient records /4-8-14.Re:Enabling,expensive intrusion /Re:4-6-14.Mayor G.Troast/PayingAttention /4-10-14 Re:The S/Ws' dictating to the police and the City

The S/Ws are the Starr/Watrases Lori Watras,John Watras,Lori Starr,Mel Starr

LHP Mayor G.Troast/ LHP City Admin.Mr. J Lavisky/LHP Chief R.Licata

4-8-14.Re: proper,viable, sufficient records

4-8-14.Mayor G.Troast, Mr.J Lavisky,

What is law enforcement and the City's excuse for not having the proper and viable records regarding this decade plus situation? -That, -the S/Ws had not and were not doing anything wrong.Nothing wrong had or was happening-? That 'explanation thing'?

Packets were mailed out to over 25 Officers, City workers,and members which included the Settlement Agreement, trying to get some assistance with that, during the ninth year- check dates-.4-17-14Correction: At least 25 packets were mailed out to Officers-approx.10- City workers,and members which included the Settlement Agreement, trying to get some assistance with that, during the ninth year- check dates-

Do you actually have sufficient records available to you?They are available to be resent or posted from this residency.Thank you.

4-8-14.Re:Enabling,expensive intrusion

4-8-14.Mayor G.Troast, Mr.J.Lavisky,

Please be reminded, this residency expects reimbursement and damages.

Having the S/Ws after you is a life altering horror show.

No one deserve having the S/Ws after them.

And, the situation was made ten times worse by goofy, belligerent, juvenile jerks making up bizarre legal practices to service them -for a decade plus.

And, those goofy jerks were/are the LHP law enforcement and City.

There has been an attempt to keep the complaints, emails, website, Blogs, etc., civilized and above board.

However, that's been a waste, as from the beginning, those standards weren't met by the parties involved.

Those standards were probably not even understood by the parties involved.

The parties involved were/are just an enabling intrusion, an expensive and timely intrusion, for this residency in trying to deal with the S/Ws.

I'm sure you get this.This doesn't need more basic language.

Thank you.

Re:4-6-14.Mayor G.Troast/PayingAttention

4-6-14. Mayor G.Troast, You ought to be paying attention to www.aseahorse1.blogspot.com and the Audio Files on www.lighthousepointflorida.net

Life had become a real horror show, a modern horror story.

This was a complete waste of life.

Or,I guess, more importantly,the way life had to be according to the S/Ws and their cops. The City did not respond well to say the least.Thank you.

Things are being updated to try to make them a little more accessible.

4-10-14.Mayor G.Troast, Mr.J Lavisky,

After looking analytically at everything,from the beginning, the S/Ws were dictating to the police and the City all those wacky policies enabling them to pound this residency with no way out for this residency.

-That 'staring is stalking' policy so the S/Ws could scream at, threaten,trespass,bang, blast,taunt, etc. for hours, but if this residency looked at them, they could call for their patrol cars. The S/Ws used that until they moved, used as method and as their excuse for what they were doing. No residency could stand to to that. Even after the house was sold, Mr.Starr came back and sat in the backyard with the new owner and loudly said so I could hear when I went into this backyard that, 'to be careful because Gail will come out and look at you', almost gloating that they had gotten away with that as excuse for all those years.

-And - the 'in the past' thing, excusing everything the the S/Ws did, right after they did it, which was already ready to be used for anything coming up they did. No residency could stand to to that.

The S/Ws also wanted and demanded police reports for any wacky thing they thought up so they could take them places to further bother this residency and anyone here. I had to really complain and complain about that. HOWEVER, that was not the same when this residency wanted police reports before and definitely for the necessary work for the Injunction process. There was not one to be had all the way up until they moved, the end of Dec.2011, technically the beginning of Jan. 2012.The S/Ws violated every part of that Document.

There are many, many more issues. See www.aseahorse1.blogspot.com

Basically law enforcement and the City enabled, protected, and covered for the S/Ws while the S/Ws gloated they would.The S/Ws were always smarter than law enforcement and the City.

-That 'the S/Ws had not and were not doing anything wrong' and 'nothing wrong had or was happening' as explanation was law enforcement and City thought up to cover up the mess law enforcement and City made and belligerently continued. Again, the S/Ws benefited and gloated.

Someone outside this City from a small City suggested that sometimes the police will do as little as possible or just what they needed to.That was not the case here as the police ran around in circles for years servicing the S/Ws, at taxpayers expense. So did the City.

This residency has viable complaints, to say the least.This City deserves to be sued, loudly.To be cont.

4-15-14.Mayor G.Troast, Re:Unresolved Issues/Issues and Players,Partial List

Once again, it has to be stated,

'Please be reminded, trying to lie about, vilify,blame,or slander this residency to try to cover up the mess law enforcement and the City made out of this, won't be tolerated and won't work.

This residency had and will have will its own history and will not be permanently and negatively defined by the S/Ws cop years by people trying to clear themselves. LHP will be defined this way.'

Just ask anyone involved with this what happened.

When a residency has a valid problem and this was a valid problem, there should be assistance, not the 'How dare you criticize our nice City!' retort, and the victims shouldn't be slammed for daring to complain.

Issues and Players,Partial List.

Larraine Schorr, Sandy Johnson,- OK.Women can be catty. Very catty. However, these women had no criminal training and had no business getting into the City's business with this. Commissioner S.Johnson was the first Commissioner approached for help after the first horrific, by any one's standards, five and a half years, which turned out to be a big mistake on the part of this residency. Both were members of C.O.P. which is supposed to be on the lookout for trouble, not cover it up. Both women violated these principles and should no longer be in any way influential from inside or from the outside of C.O.P. After the first horrific five and a half years, Larraine Schorr had no right driving over here in her C.O.P. patrol car and in her C.O.P. uniform and immediately announcing,'Well. you should have moved!'. However, no one told her what to do. She told others what to do.There were no apologies. She should have been terminated then

Mayor Schorr's compliance with the flow of the problem was very, very disappointing, especially since the decade plus mess happened during the very well publicized anti-bullying era, and this was way past just bullying.

The Chief definitely wanted that good salary which came above/before standard police work and he wasn't going to get it if did the right thing with this problem. Protecting preceding cops and covering for a City does not solve ongoing problems. He still remains overpaid.That three and a half years stuck taking to him while the S/Ws problem was continued and covered up was agonizing. He knew it was wrong to do that to anybody.

Why were the Kruteks more important than this residency? It has already been stated that J.Krutek was not smart enough to be in any way involved in a problem of such major consequence to this residency.

None of the major players will hold up in Deposition. It would have to Atty. backup using strategic maneuvers instead. This,from the beginning,- Well. J.Krutek and Det.Hawkins said that Mel Starr said that it was Gail and Andy's fault- doesn't suffice in a standard court of law, just in the Court of LHP.

This problem could have been easily solved. And without slamming the victims. Instead, it was made ten times worse by law enforcement and the City. The Perfect Storm,- conniving persistent sociopaths, dumb devious cops, and a dumb City. I have said for years now that man as a species was becoming dumber rand more predatory. The past decade in LHP certainly shows that. This reality played out like a satire, even as a comic satire, about a City. Only, it wasn't funny to this residency.

An attempt has been made over and over again to address and inform the mayoral position and request information. Please govern yourself accordingly. It is never a good idea to stand out front defending jerks who did jerky things. That's what they want and have gotten.They were and are not just entitled to this. Thank you. To be cont.:

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4-14-14/Acknowledgement of email wrong address

4-15-14#2/ Mayor G.Troast, Re: Legal Copies/Prepared Packet-new

Prepared Packet-new :Do you need these? I think I should mail them to you.I do not believe you were told the truth.It is disgusting that truthful police reports were hard to come by, and complaints just vanished. It took more work covering this up than it would have to just stop it.It also made too much work for this residency.I've only sent out one Prepared Packet-new to a very responsible person.

Prepared Packet-new

1.Settlement Agreement Document/Judge Carney. There was an original packet with the Settlement Agreement Document/Judge Carney. I mailed out at least 25 of them. Where are they all? I mailed them to all the Officers and the Chief, sometimes three Officers' names on the envelope, and all went to the LHPPD. I also mailed to Code Enforcement and other City members and workers.

What did the police do with them all? I was really trying to get help and that was a valid Document.Although some attorneys may disagree, I see no legal disadvantage in remailing the contents, as they've already been mailed and viewed, and then what? thrown away?

There are more things in this packet.

2.Note: the Orner Amended Complaint: lt contains some stuff from the original. If he had filed it originally,it would have been written better,

3.A letter Andy's mother wrote to her daughter in 1993 referring to Lori.We have the envelope,all sent back here by Andy's sister who also heard everything when she was here. Andy's brother bought them a pool pump because theirs clanged so loud, no one could sit in this backyard. Andy's mother died 2-2-1996. She spent the last years of her life listening to all that.

4.Attorney Robert Yate's threat to withdraw. He didn't.

5.That dumb insulting letter the Chief sent after the Civil Document was instated. We had already done Mediation costing almost over $300 before settlement which was a waste.Blogged email about Mediation Hearing can be resent or reblogged. insert date

The Chief just had to use two party situation language,even when the Settlement Document didn't,even though I had complained and complained about that to him.This was sent during one of the worst very determined years of the stalking and harassing.You can imagine what it was like getting that letter. You can imagine the S/Ws carrying that around to show to everyone on their behalf, especially from a Chief.

6.,7.The Chief did not reply to my two mailed request for answers. Probably too factual.The one addressed 'To Whom it may Concern' was addressed to him I only have one copy of that here now.

8.My letters to Judge Carney.The reply, oral through secr. -had to be dealt with the way it was written and filed

9.The City's reply to my attorney's request.That speaks for itself. Kind of like, we can write any goofy thing we want, this will go away, or see how expensive we can make this by filing and filing baloney.There are pages of the casework used, too many to mail now, but they are available for viewing.

Thank You.

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